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CAC Participation in VRS Panel at TDI

Behavior We Applaud
Applause Letter to CAC
Reply from CAC (None to Date)

Behavior We Applaud

The 2005 TDI Conference in New Orleans included a panel discussion of Video Relay Service (VRS). For those who are not familiar with VRS it's a service that provides an ASL interpreter as the "Communications Assistant" in the relay process. The Deaf user signs to the interpreter (through a video camera), and the interpreter then speaks the message into the phone for the hearing person. When the hearing person talks, the interpreter signs the message to the Deaf person, who reads it on a TV screen or computer monitor. The service benefits Deaf people, not hard of hearing or other OHL folks, because the overwhelming majority of them do not sign.

During the panel discussion Communication Access Center (CAC) avoided the use of the term "DeafAndHardOfHearing", correctly referring to their users as people who are Deaf. This behavior is so unusual in the hearing loss world that we want to commend them for it. Here's Randy Collins' description of the workshop:

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I have a copy of all the questions they were asked.  From the outset Hamilton, Sprint, and CSD constantly referred to deafandhardofhearing as if their services included OHL people.  CAC, Sorenson, and HOC to their credit never referred to deafandhardofhearing and if I am not mistaken never mentioned hard of hearing or oral deaf or late deafened at all.  

After being asked how many Deaf and how many hard of hearing work in your company, the panelists were asked what their companies were doing to promote jobs for Deaf and for hard of hearing people. As a follow up they were asked how their companies supported upward mobility of both groups into company management.

These were questions near and dear to all of us here at OHL, I suspect.

The three purely VRS companies (HOC, CAC, and Sorenson) again responded in terms of Deaf only and did not mention hard of hearing. As far as I am concerned that is the way it should be. As I said earlier I don't really see VRS at this point in time as being a "non-signing person with a hearing loss" vehicle for telecommunication. Unless they are developing new technology that would include some form of real time captioning, why should they even address the needs of OHL people or even more, hire OHL people? Good for these folks. They know their market and they don't pretend to use us or our numbers to justify their business. I intend to write all three and thank them. I sincerely wish them the best of the future. (I'll post a copy here.)

I don't recall Hamilton answering the question separately. It seemed to be answered as part of the initial question. Again however I will say that Hamilton admitted openly not breaking down employee numbers into two groups but rather jumbling deafandhardofhearing into one category of employees. Whatever Hamilton does there is no distinction made between the two groups. I was impressed that they admitted it. I plan to write them a letter as well thanking them for their candor and expressing the need to consider us separately and why.

Sprint and CSD responded to the above questions as they responded to the initial question, which is to say they acted as if they never heard the questioner's request to distinguish between the two groups in their response to the questions. Both said they hire either hundreds or thousands of deafandhardofhearing people, and that many deafandhardofhearing people are in management of their companies, and that they encourage deafandhardofhearing people to move up their respective corporate ladders. If either company understood the question they never addressed it in terms of hard of hearing people.

Applause Letter to CAC

Dear CAC:

I have just returned from the TDI Conference in New Orleans where I had the pleasure of attending the VRS panel discussion in which you participated. If I'm not mistaken more people attended that session than any other session at TDI. There is without question much interest in VRS across the United States.

As odd as it might seem to you I'd like to thank you for something you didn't say. You didn't say "deaf and hard of hearing" when you talked about your company, your employees or the services that you provide. You said "deaf". Thank you, sincerely.

I am hard of hearing and because of that I don't use VRS. VRS is a wonderful service. My Deaf friends use it all the time and love it as do my hearing friends. VRS really is not a service that functions well for hard of hearing people. Most hard of hearing people don't sign or don't sign well. As you know the vast majority of hard of hearing people do not use VRS. However, those of us who know about it strongly support VRS for our Deaf friends.

You may realize that while hard of hearing and Deaf people use many of the same services, and while both groups are characterized by hearing loss, there are major differences between the two groups. There are linguistic and cultural differences. In the United States most hard of hearing, late deafened, and oral deaf people consider English to be their native language. As you know Deaf people most often consider ASL to be their native language. Therein lies the difference. We are equal but we are different.

Some relay companies, many programs and services that primarily serve Deaf people refer to both groups as one, "deaf and hard of hearing" as if the services provided are of equal use to both groups. To the public at large and to potential service providers and employers, when we are lumped together as one group in reference to services that are intended for the Deaf community the inference is that hard of hearing needs are being met. Often hard of hearing needs are not being met.

I belong to an organization called Oral Hearing Loss Advocacy or OHL Advocacy. We are hard of hearing, late deafened, and oral deaf people whose native language is English. We came into being over the growing concern in our "community" as it were over the misuse of the words " deaf and hard of hearing " and all that it implies. We often see the term being used as one word, "deafandhardofhearing", a catchall for all people with a hearing loss. In reality more often than not it means programs and services for Deaf people. If services and programs are primarily for the Deaf community we support the use of the word, "Deaf", not the misnomer, "deaf and hard of hearing".

When a relay provider says, "we have hundreds of "deaf and hard of hearing" employees" or "many in our management team are deaf and hard of hearing", as some relay providers did during the panel discussion, hard of hearing people know that the statements are incorrect. We know there are none or few hard of hearing, late deafened or oral deaf people who are employees or management.

Your company functions primarily to serve Deaf people. Hard of hearing people support that. Technology hasn't taken us yet to the point where one size fits all. I appreciate the fact that you know your market and that you state it as such. It's refreshing not to hear our name being used where it doesn't really apply, in fact it helps. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Randy Collins

Reply from CAC

None to Date.